Welcome to Making Paper with Osman Hameed. So we're doing a brand change. We went from the paper and plastic show to just The making paper podcast, where we talk about making money. No guys, we're talking about making paper. We felt like, you know, our company primarily, we're a paper brokerage. We're a founder of paper brokerage. And while we do sell plastic and we move plastic, we're just really passionate about paper. And that's sort of our MO and that's our mission. So we thought, why not make it a bit more catchy, a bit more interesting. So now this is going to be the making paper show, you know, making payments, put a play on words that we're making paper, you know, we're capitalists. You want to make money, but at the same time, we're actually literally making paper, we have, waste paper or, tree fibers that we convert into real life paper. This is episode one of the new show, but it's technically episode, like. Episode 10 of the new show. So we're going to keep hopping. We're going to keep it going. And now this is episode 10. So let's get right into it today. I want to talk to you about Wilson and how they launched an airless basketball. Have you heard about the Jazib So you know, how you have this basketball, you've seen the NBA, the orange ones, if you don't play basketball, like the orange one, they have the lions on them. So that's the basketball. It's what a basketball has looked like for the last so many years. But now, Wilson, they 3D printed a basketball, and it's made from a cycle of polymers that And believe it or not, it bounces exactly the same as an air filled basketball. And it uses no air, airless. see through. You can look through the ball. But it bounces the same way it behaves the same way, but it's just completely odd and eerie that you know, why is this working? And guess what? It costs$2,500 That explains it, right? but thing is, it's made from environmentally friendly materials. You know, it's made from repurposed plastic, recycled plastic, recycled rubber. And that's how we got to start thinking about things Jazib That's why we're doing this show to show you that look just because we have done something a certain way for many, many, many, many, many, many years does not mean that's the only way of doing things. I get it. 2, 500 is probably not cost effective for now. Eventually as the technology gets better, we got to be open to thinking about ideas, solutions in a new way. You know, that's why like Ocean Ridge shameless plug. That's what that's literally what we do. We try to find Creative ways to repurpose our material to repurpose material that was maybe wastebound, landfill bound, fiber that was just going to be going into a landfill or going to decompose and find new ways to use it. That's why I love things like this, that, that cutting edge of technology while it seems so, you know, it has all the critics, people talk trash, like it's so unaffordable. What a dumb idea by Wilson. Why would you even make this? It's because when, when it comes to research, recent development, R and D. It takes time for it to become cost effective. But once it does these solutions that we need to really take it to the next level. So today I want to talk to you a bit more about paper, plastic, no plastic, you know, we don't like plastic landfill we have paper straws Canada, and I'll be honest. I'm the first to say I hate the paper straws. Hate them. you know, if you ever have an ice cap, ice cap or ice cappuccino or anything, any drink that's like, In liquid form we used to have this big thick red straws like try drinking a nice cappuccino with a paper straw and i'm like a sipper. I like sipping throughout the day Like i'll have a drink and then i'll let it simmer and i'll sip it over like three four hours Like it's a cold drink what's gonna happen? It'll get warmer. You know what I mean? It's still it's still cold. So i'll sip sip sip sip and by like the second hour My my straw is done like it's soggy It bends over at some point one time like I was drinking it and it caught I got a hole in the middle You So now the air can't siphon through it. So now the straw doesn't even work. I'm using it as a spoon. you know, plastic is a bad rap. People say plastic, this plastic, that, and Hey, we're getting rid of plastic. We don't hate plastic. That's the actuality. But what we do feel though, is that paper has advantages. Look, if a plastic straw falls in the ground, five generations later, it's still going to be in the ground. A paper straw falls in the ground, five, six years, probably maybe less. Gone. It's gonna be decomposed. So I get the cost effect of this, but that doesn't mean You know, let's just get rid of paper straws, man. Who cares? Like, I think the earth will be fine. The earth will be fine. But there is benefits, guys. And I think that's why we as a company are shifting more towards paper and being more paper focused. for example, what they always say is like, why does it matter if a plastic bag is used? Why does it matter if, you know, we used, um, do you know how you buy cans of coke and have the little, the plastic little thing on top? Guys, the reality is these material, unless they're recycled, they're very, very dangerous. And that's the problem with the plastic that if it's responsibly recycled, it's great. But be honest with me, how many of you 100 of the time recycle your plastic material? And if you don't, that is hurting the environment that is dangerous for animals that is going into the ocean and joining that massive,
massive, big,
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island floating around. Plastic, if not responsibly taken care of. is a hell of a problem.
In Toronto, we have a very good recycling program. We have blue bins almost everywhere. Plastic is recycled and it can be used many, many, many, many times too. And it's really cost effective to make. So the environmental footprint of making plastic is sometimes lower than creating like these cartons of paper. But that said, is it worth it? If people like you and me are not going to cycle,
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please recycle your plastics. Very, very important.
How often if you have a plastic tray, be honest with me, you have a plastic tray and you wash it out and you throw it in the recycling bin. Because the reality is people think that you can get like contaminated plastic and throw it in the recycling program and it'll recycle. No, it has to be washed. Like a lot of these programs are these cities, they're murphs. Or the recycling facilities do not have the capacity to clean the material. Because remember when I, if this food waste on some plastic or inside a jar, it gets bacteria, it gets, you know, it gets really nasty. And then when they go, by the time it gets to the sorting facility, it's been like so many days and now it stinks. Imagine yogurt, like a yogurt container. If it's half full of yogurt, that's not being recycled. You have to do, you have to wash it out. So be honest. How often have you washed out a material? from your tray and thrown it in the recycling bin. No, man, nobody, nobody does it. Like you don't finish your lentil soup or you don't finish your chickpeas or whatever. You just toss it straight in the landfill. And that's the problem. Everybody says plastic is great. Plastic is fine. It is if it's recycled. But if it's not recycled, that plastic tray is going to see your great, great, great grandkids. Your great, great, great grandkids will have that plastic tray in the ground to welcome them when they come alive, you know? So, but that biodegradable, the sugarcane tray. You eat on it, you toss it in the landfill. And after like, maybe in a year, I mean, it's made out of like this fiber, like the circuit fiber, it's like, it's going to dissolve like sort of paper. Exactly. So that's what we got to do. We got to make paper, use paper and make paper. I'm just, I mean, make that too. That's important as well. Money makes the world go round. Um, that was it, man. I kind of liked that. Let's keep it at that. Episode 10 in the books, making paper show. See you in the next one.